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cuts. the sequester has been called off. mr. boehner would like a down payment on entitlements. i don't see that happening. to me remember it used to be 3-1 or 4-1 spending cuts to revenue increases. right now it looks to me like it's 10-1. 10-0. $10 of revenue hikes and no spending cuts, jimmy pethokoukis. >> i think what we're going to get at the end of the day, you're going to get a lot of tax increases, and then you're going to get a lot of promises about caps and mechanisms. be careful of the word "process." there's going to be a process in place for looking at further spending cuts. or entitlement reform. but that's all going to be like tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, the 12th of never. what we're going to get right away are tax increases in an economy that's going to be really slow. it was slow last year, slow before. the economic reports out today, terrible. and we're going to try a little experiment about raising taxes in a lousy economy. hop it works. >> jared, jimmy's got a point. the industrial production number, no matter how you slice it, with the hurricane or without
leadership. so speaker john boehner is going to be a lonely guy. >> i think the republicans ought to hold firm against any tax rates. president obama is striding around like he has a mandate for tax hikes but look at house republicans. for 20 years the house republican message has been against any tax hikes. voters now where house republicans were on taxes and tax hikes and the republicans retain their large majority so they absolutely ought to hold out against any tax hikes. >> that's a stalemate. >> speaker boehner has said close some loopholes. okay. there are good loopholes and bad ones. the house republicans ought to make sure that there is at least 3 or $4 of every spending cut for every dollar of loophole closing. >> there is no spending cuts. >> that's the thing. they have got to hold firm against that. >> they're talking about 400, $500 billion in revenues, maybe more. that's the republicans obsession. i didn't hear any spending cuts at all. >> the loopholes -- cuts in military spending. >> they won't do it. >> president obama has gone along with that. >> but the republicans won'
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